Outlawed Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Because down voting is a way of saying you disagree with something instead of posting, that's the point of it. And if you can upvote, and praise/agree with someone, but can't do the opposite, that's a bit of a hobson's choice isn't it? I should probably shut up before this gets into a free will/censorship for 'good' discussion, but the point's there, why have one without the other, it's genuinely a stupid thing. And i can't tell you how many other forums get along really well with plenty of 'dumb' ratings. Facepunch has five bad ratings, one of which is for when someone insults someone else, and you agree. And it seems to be doing fine, and has done for seven years now. It is pretty damn obvious how the up/down vote system is supposed to work and the simple fact is was abused be several people on this forum meant it was removed. Simple fix and it worked. We all know how much you love to rail on this community Harlow, like an angry teenage daughter, but you never seem to make it to the door to leave... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Shoe Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 And the man who suggested that the voting system be completely removed upvotes another post. That's a bit hypocritical, innit? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantesinferno52 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Okay here is what I think will happen if we allow the down vote system. We see a project someone spent some time on and we down vote without saying why and how do you think this will make the person feel? Well of course not all of us are such novices at making things but we should applaud those people for spending their time on that project. Am i saying we should upvote everyones project? No, Im saying the least we can do is not have a down vote section for those people who bust thier ass to at least contribute to such an evolving community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom P. Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I see both sides to the opinion to be honest. I understand completely PC's view on the situation, but then again I see the other side where it was abused before, and it would likely happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriotic Canadian Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Okay here is what I think will happen if we allow the down vote system. We see a project someone spent some time on and we down vote without saying why and how do you think this will make the person feel? Like he's done something poorly, that's the point of telling someone he's done something poorly And how is the general theme of this thread "we can't tell people they're poo because that'll hurt their feelings." That's just encouraging awful things to be made, and if you tell a dog who's just shat on the floor that he's a good dog in consolation, suddenly the dog thinks that that's how it gets praised, so it'll do it more. That's exactly what's happened here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantesinferno52 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 So you think by putting a damn down vote system is going to help them get better? if anything it will tell them to stop making it when they see 16 or so downvotes. The main reason people dont post stuff in SYP is because of people like you, who think it is acceptable to post "funny" images of saying how horrific it is and not telling them or spending some time out to help them with the project because yeah they can learn on thier own but they can learn faster when they have someone who knows so much about said project giving them pointers. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriotic Canadian Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Yeah but the same way, praising people for making awful things is far worse, and seems to be a waypoint of today's culture, the best example being the slow march of skinner box and other gratification mechanics edging their way into literally everything we interact with daily. And if people are scared of making things because they're bad at it, then that's probably a clue they should think harder about how to do it and when i do go on a massive 1500 word post critisisng things i get yelled at for being a bastard, and not nearly as many people complain when i go "well that's a bit crap innit mate" with a stupid image, and nobody listens anyway so i think i'm just going to yell at the wall for not being a load bearing structure forcing the other walls are making fun of it, and the wall civil war of walls should probably be diffused anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlawed Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 and the record skips and the record skips and the record skips and the record skips and the record skips and the record skips and the record skips and the record skips and the record skips 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obsessionracing Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 But you also have to remember that even if YOU don't like it, that doesn't mean that OTHERS can't like it. Everybody has different opinions of projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriotic Canadian Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 and that's the point of the downvote system, to find the equilibrium between all opinions where they balance out between upvote and downvote. that's the entire point of voting in the first place Plus it makes the accumulated rep thing pretty meaningless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom P. Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I think we should either have both upvote and downvote, or no voting system at all. Thats my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klayton Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 No i think all the people saying downvote or no vote system are just mad because you cant downvote a person you dont like. Its either a yes or no for downvote. Dont start making other decisions because you cant have what you want. Ror forums doesnt have any dislikes and they are doing fine. Now thats just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nascarfan98 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Steve you seem to care a lot about a red button that points downwards. If it's just gonna start fights like this. Just don't bother with a downvote button. Or get rid of the system completely. We can live without one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom P. Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 No i think all the people saying downvote or no vote system are just mad because you cant downvote a person you dont like. Its either a yes or no for downvote. Dont start making other decisions because you cant have what you want. Ror forums doesnt have any dislikes and they are doing fine. Now thats just my two cents. Im not mad at all. Won't change my life if there is a downvote button or not on a website. It's just my opinion. I think a lot of people are taking this a tad too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Colineri Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 How about instead of getting into arguments over this...we just agree to not bring it back? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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