I'll look in to BeamNG. I've seen videos on YouTube and it does look impressive. I believe it is from the creators of RORs. As for the comment on the CryEngine , it cost 30% of revenue of x months/years... possibly being upwards of 1.2 million. Being most everyone would want to include "licensed" trucks "bigfoot, gravedigger, MaxD" whatnot we wouldn't be able to sell it. As for the UnrealEngine, it appears that it is free to use as a noncommercial product which is what we would want.. Make it open source and all. There is another engine called "Unity" I'll have to check into that also. The 3D engine could be done easily I think I could even take on writing a 3D engine, the guts of it is the physics. I would make it a must to use "Soft Body Physics" it is an absolute must after playing all the random monster truck games and basically they suck. ROR is by far the best anyone has even come close to. Looks like enough people are interested and wouldn't mind helping. I'll start reading up on soft body physics and digging deeper into ROR source. Comments?