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But damon was such a great driver. 

So apparently Dennis' cage was bent before the flip

47 minutes ago, monstabubba said:

I wish that supercross would be owned by another company so they dont have the really stupid track designs that have been put on recently...

And as for monster jam, It is really poorly managed... I wish that it would also go to another entertainment group(also wishing that it would bring back crush cars to freestyle)

Whats wrong with the sx tracks. It being poorly managed is completely wrong. Compare it to 10 yars ago, what the trucks are doing and the series they put in. Compare it to other promoters (not saying they are bad) but do not compare to the show monster jam puts on week after week in multiple stadiums. 

I always thought that a digger roll cage was never a good design. Rolls over hard and there is little surface area to let energy disband. Im sure landing on a roof hurts in any truck, but i feel doing it in a wilman would hurt less. I.E. Tom in baltimore 2012 . Anyway, suprised how long they lest monster energy go in anaheim with aboslutely zero of the front left together. 

the circus isnt that popular, FELD still owns supercross to.

well at least he was waving and stuff, better than Chad in jacksonville in like when he got knocked out. 

its pretty amazing how many highlights we get from arena shows now. Id rather go to them than stadium events.

Do they still do the winner of the previous show gets a checkered flag? 

1 hour ago, midwestmonster said:

Unpopular opinion here, but they should only do shows in the US, Canada, or Mexico.  It seems like it costs them more money than it makes to have shows there, plus it probably costs a lot to ship trucks back and forth.

I mean if FELD has the money then why not. They wouldnt do it if they didnt make some sort of profit. I dont see why they dont have a europe tour, australian tour and a US tour at the same time. 3 stadium shows per week, 1 on each continent. And then Vegas be at the end of the year around september with like a 3 week down period to get those trucks who won their respective tour at the finals. Thus making it the world finals. Not american finals. 

And i think having 2 stadium shows in the same weekend is dumb. Minneapolis is a perfect example. Sold out so ya dont really want to push the trucks and the sunday the stadium is nearly empty. 

Im aware this will never happen but its worth. 

How does FELD make money on arena shows

1 hour ago, Hagan Moskau said:

Apparently, Monster Jam University uses retired and used chassis for rookie drivers. GD24-25 are apart of them with some PEI and CRD chassis in the mix of it all.

i mean its definetly cheaper.

For a sold out stadium, lackluster show. Probably because of the 2 show weekend. 

41 minutes ago, Outlawed said:

With the disclaimer that I am not apart of the industry past knowing and speaking with people who are, there is far too many pretentious attitudes.

From corporate? Or drivers, crew? 

On 8/4/2016 at 1:56 PM, Outlawed said:

Would I want to drive? I would like to atleast try once in my lifetime. However the vibe I got with how the industry works, I would not want to be a part of it full time.

bump but i just have to ask ya kozack, how does it work?

18 minutes ago, Charlie H. said:

That's good because Montgomery and Santiago didn't look super full 

Yea but arenas rarely get sold out. But i guess chile should be since first time

3 hours ago, bkelley said:

I wonder why they pulled a section out in the stadium. Is the tunnel behind that section?

I think the tunnel is next to firestorm, prolly just easier to work on the trucks there. Or to make the stadium look more full. I read it sold out today. I wish they wiuld throw a van stack or something on the dirt mounds and put them on the backside of the dirt jammer. 

jammer/ ramp likes to grab on the jammer side.

Just now, Alan E. said:

That was Swim in 16 back in 2010. 

Could have swore it was Runte. thank you.

Are those the trucks that were recently retired due to heavy crashes? If so then those didn't look very fun to drive. Which truck was Runte in when he hurt his back in Salinas during the summer show?

4 minutes ago, Outlawed said:

Once the sport shifted away from legitimate racing (where how you did determined your payout), the R&D they put into the trucks was a moot point. Don't get me wrong, the inhouse trucks (8-16) were good but they were born and bred for racing. Sure you could freestyle in them but they kicked the crap out of their drivers.

Completly agree with you. watched some videos on penda and a couple other races behind the scenes and they were winning but Runte said he was getting pretty beat up on the landings. Do indy still  do payout? I know soaring eagle show had like a bonus one year for winning an event. I don't know, Kozak. I think they would give a valient effort in racing today but I don't know about freestyle. Still a legendary truck and team but i think where the "sport" has gone its just difficult to tell. Thank you for your reply and insight sir.

15 minutes ago, Outlawed said:

I have thought about this quite a bit being a 'foot fan since the 90s. I would like to think they would around the 2xtreme Racing (Jimmy Creten) threshold, contenders but not necessarily winning everything. Would have loved to have seen Runte take a stab at Vegas before he retired. Swim, "Vinny" and Schnell would be solid stadium contenders, I think they would do okay in arenas but with how those shows have ramped up over the past year, I do not think they are that "footloose" with the stoppies and "skidmarks".

One can dream about seeing them running FELD shows again... 

 

very true on arenas. wasnt their equipment better than monster jams in the early years? ( i mean it is still some of the best in the business) and i think 2 extreme are still big. i mean jimmy wins stadium freestyle and he is always a top notch racer. and that streak linsey had in iron outlaw was incredible.

I was thinking about this while watching the monster blog videos on youtube. I began to ask myself how many world finals wins would bigfoot have if they were invited and how they would have done on the mj circuit. im thinking bigfoot would at least be in the finals if not the winner in racing in vegas in the early years. They dont seem to put on mega freestyles though, but still a hell-uva show when they do. Thoughts?

also, beumont texas arena track was amazing. What do you guys think the best arena tracks have been ever? the ones mj uses are good but i dont think they provide that much excitement

8 minutes ago, Charlie H. said:

Montreal has about 12-14 and Charlotte has 10. Best case I can see is if TMTT and Monster Truck Throwdown come together especially since Family Events and Monster X like to act in their own spheres whereas the first two have the same trucks running on both

 

true true. sorry for getting this thread off topic. i didnt see a need for starting a new one that could take 4 replies. just wondering but since feld still uses indies in the winter, are they still trying to phase them out? and is it just corporate people or do the people that are actually involved in the show ie drivers and crew that do not like them?

25 minutes ago, Charlie H. said:

Biggest independent show arguably is either the Charlotte Back to School Bash or the Monster Spectacular Montreal Show.

Reason smaller promoters dont is twofold:

1- FELD has contracts with most large stadiums and arenas, meaning smaller promoters only get a tiny amount of those left over (and even then sometimes FELD does contracts afterwards) and outdoor venues

2- FELD has tons of business experience, whereas smaller promoters do not. As much as we all want a "real points series" again or a massive indie tour, think about stuff like MTC, MLMT, ProMT and others that tried to go big and fell flat after a year or two.

Well we know that FELD has the winter shows locked up. Its the summer that i think the indies are at their best. But how many trucks are at montreal and Charolette. There are very good indie shows that i have watched on youtube but there are only about 4-5 trucks. I know im not providing a very good argument but if those 3 smaller promoters would come together than i think there could be some competition as feld on does 3-4 summer stadiums not including race tracks. 

Question: What is the biggest Independent show? (thinking of why smaller promoters dont get has much hype as monster jam)